"Planned obsolescence" is absolutely a real thing. I remember one of my high school teachers telling us about it all the way back in like 2008. It's simply the idea of a company purposely designing their products to be fragile and have shorter lifespans so you keep buying the "new" one that's only incrementally better than the last one. There's also "perceived obsolescence" which is when a company purposely makes that incrementally better product seem so much flashier and newer than that drabby old one (cough, adding more camera lenses, cough... making up a bunch of pro ultra plus max models, cough)
To be fair, the pro actually has a way better camera than the standard iPhone, as well as better performance. The rest is true. But pro isn’t just some flashy name, it’s legitimately a better product
I love to imagine half a year ago some depressed caged up Apple worker who was keeping iTunes on iPod alive just for Charlie finally broke free of his shackles.
We need more people like you Charlie who spits out facts it’s still crazy when apple and Microsoft gets away things like ripping off people with broken products
That apple battery thing was crazy. I worked at an apple certified repair shop at the time and we literally had massive half way up the wall stacks of replacement batteries because Apple had a deal for them as part of the whole situation.
I have an iPhone 4 that survived a car crash, literally bent in a 20° angle and despite the screen being nearly dust it still works perfectly to this day. I miss using that phone, it had a large capacity chinese battery in it too lasted almost two days. How the mighty have fallen.
People do the same thing for the concept of android phones. An even better example of this is Elon musk who still has fanboys despite seemingly trying to prove he’s an idiot. People get capitalism pilled in so many ways. Whether they simp companies, products or billionaires.
@@ahahuehafook4207 this is actually a great example for a conversation I’m having in another thread about how insanely egregious a comment has to be to get automoderated. This gets through just fine😂 outright blatant anti-semitism is totally fine. And they were saying auto moderation claps right wing comments
I totally agree. I don't get a new phone unless it breaks. I'm still using a Galaxy S10 and it still works just as good as the day I got it, I haven't even noticed a loss in battery capacity. I only stick with Samsung because a while ago I bought a Samsung surround sound system that was heavily discounted because it was a display and missing a lot of parts. I sent an email to Samsung asking where I can purchase replacement parts. Within 2 days they replied asking for my address. They sent me every part that I needed for free, plus they through in a 128g SDcard. This was over $150 in parts, I didn't even have to pay shipping. Thats how companies keep customers for life.
I'm still using my S10 too. Extra SD slot, head phone jack, excellent battery and survived multiple drops. Not looking forward to changing to the newer models.
@propop1 my only issue with the newer models is the lack of a headphone jack. I finally replaced my S20+ after the screen that I cracked 2 years ago started losing pixels and touch response last month, but besides that it still ran so smooth. If you like your S10 then you'll like the newer models too. I've had the S3, S5, S7, S10+, S20+, and now the S23.
@@propop1 Right! The expandable memory is awesome, btw Samsung says the S10 can use up to a 512GB micro SDcard however your S10 can actually support a 1TB Micro SDcard. The 1TB is whats in my S10 right now and works great. And not having the freedom to use expandable storage on the new S23 is the reason why I won't ever "upgrade" to the S23, and also I absolutely love the Prism Blue color of my S10 and meanwhile Prism Blue isn't available on the S23, only a very muted Sky Blue. Damm, now you got me looking for spare S10. And I'm guessing a lot of other people also like the S10 because for a new unopened S10 the price is a little ridiculous ($500+) for a phone released 4 years ago. Anyway nice to meet and talk to another super awesome intelligent person... but for real stay safe out there.
@@mastod0n1 I heard others say the S20 is great as well. So maybe I might get the S20 if my S10 breaks. Since the S20 has expandable memory(micro SDcard) and the S23 doesn't. For some idiotic reason Samsung got rid of that feature. Which is really dumb since expandable memory was one of the main reasons people went with Samsung over Apple. Hopefully Samsung brings it back.
The Samsung line has some good products, even on their side brands. I've got a Galaxy A20 that I've had for well over 5 years and it still works fine. I cracked the screen recently, but that was my own fault. I didn't crack it for 5 years, even after dropping it more times than I'm willing to admit. Plus I got this phone cheap for the life time it's had.
I had a IPhone 6s, thing was the best phone I have ever had. It had a headphone jack (unlike my current 11) and it was apparently the most repairable iPhone ever made. I beat that 6s hard and it just kept working. Meanwhile I set my 11 down on a rock and it lightly slid and got 4 scratches on the bezel, with a case on.
Charlie I really appreciate you promoting Common Sense. I tell my kids pretty much the same things and warn them not to be influenced into buying useless upgrades or becoming sheeple to the latest trends. Of course, I'm the dad so they don't listen to me, but my boys absolutely worship you. Anyway just wanted to say thanks just putting it out there.
I still use the 10, got my daughter a 14 because at the time she was using an 8 and via planned obsolescence, it was getting to be a pain for her, so I didn’t mind. The only reason I really use apple at all is because back in the days of iPhone 4, it was the only airtight device out there and was easier to get cost effective waterproof cases. I work in steel fabrication and we have metallic dust particles, I was literally frying my androids in about 1-2 years no matter how much I cleaned them, eventually I’d pop the back off and find all this dust magnetically caked to the battery, eventually it would kill them. I wish they’d just make the updates a setting I can toggle on and off, I actually understand the reasoning, there is a point where your phone wouldn’t even be able to boot without crashing if the battery declines to a certain point and the OS updates eve up being too strong a draw on the power, meaning planned obsolescence actually does have a purpose, however I know how to change my batteries and screens out if they get damaged or wear down, so the ability to toggle certain things without jailbreaking the phone and voiding warranties would be a good show of faith on their end. But yeah, not holding my breath, they’d rather I drop a whole ass paycheck or more on a new round of phones every time they make a new one.
You would be surprised at how durable the iPhone 11 is. I’ve had mine since launch, and since I have butterfingers, I tend to drop it a lot, mostly on it’s front side (no screen protector btw) and there isn’t even a scratch on it.
I have a 13 and this thing has taken a few brutal drops onto hardwood and tile floors and has no problems. Don’t know if I’m just insanely lucky, but most of my iphones have been able to be fine after drops with just a basic rubber case
Planned obsolescence is probably one of the grossest things companies started doing with their products, intentionally making things shittily because you'll have to buy another is something that should land the originators of that trend to hell
Also about your iphone battery, Apple is also basically the only one who still uses cobalt batteries while pretty much everyone else has been switching to many other alloyed batteries over the years as battery tech developed; one might think considering typical Apple practices that they chose to stay with cobalt compositions because they have a shorter lifespan for accelerated and even more premature forced obsolescence Would love to see some data
I fairly dislike Apple, but that claim just isn't true. They use Lithium-Ion Batteries just like everybody else. It's not like their batteries are any special. For better, or for worse. Apple gives you more than enough you can hate them for. There is no need to make things like this up.
For example starting with the "ingenuine part" warning, even when switching to another oem part, because all of it is paired. The software locks, that come with that, for "safety". The non accessible calibration software. Etc. Search and you'll find valid criticism. Don't make something up.
Lmao I’m right there with you Charlie, I’m still using an iPhone 10 and this this is an unstoppable brick, still works fine even after running it over with a forklift and accidentally chucking it across the room when you drop it and try to catch it and fail lmao
Yeah same, iphone 10 has been insanely good, never had a modern phone last so long. My battery could be better but the performance is still really good. It fell from my hand a lot of times and still works. 4+ years and going strong
I got the iPhone xs max and i do everthing with the it, i had the battery changed when it went down to 75% and still no problem with it, my screen is always on most of the day with youtube etc and had 0 problem with it superb phone and i have had Androids before and problem with thoose were always performance even with the flagship models campare to iPhone at the same time
@@TheDeerjan yea I was android before I got this phone, personally don’t really use it for anything other than talking to the girl and BRclip, only reason I even upgraded was because my old one broke and I got this for free so couldn’t beat it lol
I use an S23 too, I'd definitely vouch for it. I'm not particularly rough on phones, I've only ever dropped one and broke it, but the S23 feels like it shrugs off quite a bit of punishment. As an added bonus, it's also easy to take apart and clean.
Apple stans will never admit it but as far as durability goes Samsung is now the superior company, they're seeing apple get called out on their money grabbing schemes and Samsung wants to reel in some new customers that no longer want to deal with Apple.
First time samsung user here. Idk if all samsung phones are built strong but this "entry phone" my friend recommended to me is tough af. I accidentally dropped my A14 from the second floor of our dorm to the street and all I got was some scratch on the top.
2:13 THANK YOU. I thought I was the only one for so long 😭 I had an LG too before going to iPhone, and also, this vid inspired me to just not get the iPhone 15 because I was contemplating to jump on it but kept thinking how my phone works extremely good and it’s durability and benefits. This thing still look brand new and is even bigger then the iPhone 15 vs the iPhone 11.
We need more influencers and people in general who think like Charlie. "I'm not going to upgrade because I don't NEED to" this is exactly the kind of mindset we should all have as consumers.
Agreed, if you don’t need it, don’t buy it. And if it’s not broken, don’t replace it just yet .i somehow kept an iPad Air gen 1 running for about a decade + and I’m still using it currently.
The craziest thing is that apples up until the 15 were practically indestructible! I’ve stuck with apple because, like you said, I only upgrade when I HAVE to. I upgraded from the 6s to the 13 pro max a couple years ago and there’s absolutely no feature that has convinced me to change. The only iPhone I ever had break on me was the 4s. The hardware and software has never had any issues on my end. It’s wild to see apple step backwards in the durability department.
I really enjoy the fact that you used a piece of technology and didn’t replace it because of time, you would only replace it if you had to. My old phone was an iPhone 7, and I had it for years, any of my iPhones would’ve been replaced since I would always get a hand me downs from my mom. The only reason that I actually had to replace that iPhone is because after my grandma’s funeral, I had left it out in the sun for too long, and the Sim card burned up. So I would have only been able to use it at home. We could have gotten the Sim card replaced but I did not know about that and I just ended up getting an iPhone 12 as a replacement / upgrade. I have no intentions on asking for a replacement for this phone unless completely necessary. The only kind of replacement or fixing I would do to it is anything related to the screen or if it is absolutely necessary for any other functions. I have dropped his phone in water, and it stayed there for like, over a minute, and it still works perfectly fine, no need for replacement
I’ve been fortunate with my iPhones to only have to update my model every 4-6 years. My first device was the iPhone 2, followed by the 6S, and now currently the 11. I probably won’t be getting a newer device until the 16 or 17- if not moving away from the Apple ecosystem into something more akin to a prepaid phone because, frankly, I’m on WiFi 90% of the time; it’s relatively uncommon that I actually use my cellular function of my phone.
I was a pretty early adopter of Android phones. Some of the first HTCs and Samsungs did suck and were really fragile. I moved to the pixel when it first came out and have been pleasantly surprised despite being a Google product.
It’s actually not just the 15, other iPad Air generations like gen 4 have similar durability issues, especially when it comes to the screen popping out from its display. I would know this considering I own a couple of them.
If I remember right, there is third party software for ipods that will auto convert songs for you. But iTunes was oddly good since you could easily update the mp3 tags and also increase the files volume if you notice it is too soft.
Something I’ll always advocate for is manual things. Manual car windows can’t stop working unless they physically break for instance. Stop making things weaker and electronic only, just because electronics are more convenient doesn’t mean they’re better in every single case.
I've always preferred manual things, but after working in IT for a few years I actively search out more manual/mechanical things. Electronics are just so fragile and difficult to repair in comparison.
I have the base s23 for 3.5 months now. Its been great so far and I'm still discovering new things it could do. The 120hz refresh 8k display is really nice. I went to best buy and messed around with an s23+, and the speed of that phone was mind blowing, I know the battery life is really good too.
the s23 doesnt have a 8k display💀💀,are u crazy or smth? second of all the s23+ has literally the same chip as ur s23 so it isnt faster,idk how u came up with that
@@pegcity4eva oh my bad. Its actually 1080x2340. I was wrong because I know it takes 8k videos on its main camera, so I thought the screen would also be 8k lol.
Doogee's line of heavy duty smartphones have treated me pretty well over the years. The phones body are the cases. I used one to drive a nail into a deck railing. Granted, it was a small nail. But still. I was able to whack a small nail back into the railing with the side of my phone with nothing but a little scrape on the rubber bumpers. They have one that has infrared cameras, a laser rangefinder, or thermal cameras, They are designed with contractors and people who work in hard environments.
I learned that if you don't use the charger that was packaged with the phone there's a huge chance you're killing your battery. Also upgrade programs with phone companies won't make sense if the phones don't get outdated.
Earlier this year I had to upgrade my old phone because it started getting super hot when it was on for any amount of time and the battery lasted like three hours. It was an amusing experience because it was a Blackberry Priv, and everyone at the store just could not stop staring at it because they'd never seen anyone who had one of those before. I originally got it because of the sliding keyboard, which I prefered over onscreen keyboards, and that was it. It was a good phone, I miss it dearly. I especially miss how it didn't slide off of even the slightest uneven surface, unlike my Google Pixel. I swear it secretly excretes oil when I'm not looking at it because some place i've put it down on it should not have been able to slide and fall from...thankfully, it's pretty hardy, because I don't intend on upgrading it until it too is completely unusable.
I’m with you Charlie, my old iPhone 4s has been used as a music player/podcast machine since they stopped doing updates on it and I was forced to upgrade. It’s nothing to do with money I just think we should really drive tech into the ground before throwing it away for recycling otherwise we’re just making more needless tech waste. Unlike your iPod touch I found a couple morphie power bank cases with a built in hard drive being sold for practically nothing because it’s for old tech they are just drag and drop allowing me to completely cut out iTunes.
I just upgraded from an 11 base model to 15pro after 4 years and I couldn’t be happier. But the only thing that justified buying a new iPhone for me was the fact that i literally squeezed every ounce of life from that 11.
I considered upgrading but I decided to just pay to have the battery replaced on my 11 pro. Should be able to get 2-3 more years before the processor shows it’s age.
What's funny about this whole thing is the iPhone 14 pro series was actually pretty damage resistant. It's probably the only iphone I ever used without a case. Look up some of the drop tests with it. the 15 pales in comparison
I think one thing that may have helped break the glass is the titanium. I don't know what the properties of titanium but maybe the different elasticity had an effect.
Titanium is a great shock absorber so the chances are the phone either has very little titanium in it or the titanium is far too thin to actually absorb any shock.
i try to keep my devices as long as possible - had my iphone 6 forever, got a hand me down x that crashed and upgraded to an 11. im keeping this thing for as long as possible. my friend upgrades her phones pretty consistently and has handfuls of problems with them. i refuse to let my laptop die, its a 2015 air - battery life is atrocious but this thing is getting me through university whether it wants to or not lol
Same situation, an Iphone 11 that has the battery life of a koala on a tree and an air 2015 that can stay open without a charger for max 2 hours but as long as they light up when u charge them I’m keeping them.
I still haven’t upgraded from the iPhone 11. The way I see it, there’s no point to updating technology unless there’s you know…some kind of technological innovation. Every year, it’s “it’s slightly faster and the camera is slightly better”. It just doesn’t do it for me. I went from the 5S to 11 because of Face ID. It’s an innovation I loved. Just waiting for the next thing I can love
I was walking down the street last year and my iPhone 13 slid out of my pocket and I watched it get run over by an SUV before I could run across the road and grab it. You could see the tire track across my screen, but the phone had nothing but a tiny little fracture in the corner of my screen protector. Nothing but a cheap flimsy case on it as well. I was shocked, fully expected it to be completely destroyed under the weight of the SUV. So I’d say they’ve had a pretty good durability track record up until now, from my experience. That shit was funky fresh.
Finally glad people are catching onto this bs. Louis Rossmann has a very good channel going over things like this. Though this is most likely a topic that'll live for about a week before it dies out again and people go back to buying products they complained about.
Charlie immediately earned a respect boost by saying, I don't need any technical updates unless something breaks. We need more people to return to this mindset.
Unfortunately, hackers find security flaws over time. Then exploit them. Technically Apple don’t realise it’s broken until it’s exploited. So yes, by that definition you should get technical updates when they become available.
Bro is absolutely spitting facts for the whole duration of the video. He's not an expert, he's just observing reality without being biased, he's exposing the arguable concept of plained obsolence and comparing the products in the characteristics he cares of and in the ones that are most important for a device like a smartphone.
For all the idiots in the comments: the more flexible the phone is, the more it’s internal components will survive a fall. That makes the iPhone more durable with common wear and tear, but it is exactly what will allow you to bend it and break it like this. Flexible materials will dissipate a large force applied in a short time, like a fall, but will break if you apply a small force for long time like shown in the video.
Will say I’ve had the 8, 10, 12, and 14 and I’m rough on them. Haven’t had any issues with them but does seem like they’ve gotten more durable if anything. Does look like the 15s a little rough though. The planned obsolescence has been solved for years now.
The only way I've ever accidentally broken an android product was jumping off the hood of a humvee holding a MK19. The corner slammed into the cargo pocket that my phone was in, and the screen shattered but was still usable. The fact phones will break just being dropped is insane
I have an 11 and it works great. I’ve broken it twice within the past 1-2 years; once half my screen cracked and the second time the entire front came off,and it works great. I personally don’t like the newer iPhones because the screen is too big and I don’t like the squareness of them. I’m sure mine will stop working eventually, but until then, I’ll stick with the 11.
I still use my 4-year old LG G8. I had to manually replace the OLED screen and install a fresh battery last year, but it still works really well. I also had the same PS2 for 13 consecutive years, and a 3DS for 5 years when I was younger. Both worked flawlessly the entire time.
Fun fact: The biggest new feature on the iPhone 15 is the new standard charging port which they were legally forced to adopt due to the EU legislature that was recently passed. Shame on Apple.
@@tehtommy7 I highly doubt it. Yes, they were a high financer of usb-c... to lightning cable. Or usb-c as thunderbolt on their mac products. They were MILKING prices on lightning cables.
I remember when phones were using durability and water resistance as marketing points but they’ve dropped it and expected that nobody cared about those features so they stopped making innovations in that department
I love when my classmates gather to talk about the new iPhone (not anything technical, just the colors and storage options) and then 10 minutes later deciding they’re gonna ask their parents to buy it for them, while I sit there with my iPhone 11. Granted it lasts like half a day and I can’t charge it to more than 80% since the new iPhone, but it still works really well, why the hell would you buy a new phone just because the color of the phone is slightly darker than your current one?
A few years back I snapped an iPhone 6 in half fairly effortlessly. Just hold it by both ends with the backside to your palms, and bend it towards you. When I did it, I had the screen against my hand and got a chunk of glass lodged in my hand so don’t do that. they haven’t really changed in any way in the later models. The phone in the video that survived the bend test is genuinely impressive because it is not hard to do to any phone at all.
I've actually never had an iphone, only update a phone when it needs to be updated, just like you. Currently have the xperia 5ii and was about to get the iphone 15 because Xperias are great, but I'm sick of everyone having better camera than me. This video made me change my mind...
I mean the guy doing the break tests wouldn't do it on your personal phone, even if it's nearly impossible why would you risk the fact you may snap Ur phone and lose it
@@pip3505 idk about the rest but iphone X, 11, and im assuming the rest of the X's and the normal 12 definitely cannot break just from tight jeans lmfao. P sure that was a problem with a few models, and only one was bad enough to go viral.
I have been using my samsung tab for more than 6 years now and apart from the memory which I can extend with an SD card, I have never had a problem. I don't even use a case or scrren protector for it, probably dropped more times than necessary. Although it has a few scratches it works more than fine
When it comes to “Planned Obsolescence” there is an actual defense for it. It’s very technical but a BRclipr Technology Connections did a video on it. He does make sure to point out there’s a difference between manufactures making something last so long so you buy more, and making something last so long for logistical, safety and completely understandable reasons. I will admit the channel is often dry, and dull, but I don’t think you’re going to find another channel that can make you watch a half hour video on smoke alarms and not make you feel like you’ve wasted time. Pretty interesting stuff he covers… always very niche and specific, but I could go on and on about random things about garage doors, lightbulbs, vehicle lighting, AC, Old Film, etc.
What happened with the iPhone 15 models is a step forward but 15 steps backward due to a design flaw involving the curved glass instead of curved titanium encasing it for protection. Another issue is the heating problem caused by the powerful chip. Personally, I'd prefer a slightly thicker phone without camera bumps and equipped with some kind of cooling feature to dissipate the heat.
I’m similar because I never update anything if it works. My iPhone is at 13.5.1 and I refuse to update to version 17 or whatever. The lawsuit against them for slowing down older models with newer updates only justified my actions.
Just this year i finally upgraded to a new phone bc the last one i had for 8 years was so outdated and the battery was so worn out, i couldn't install any new apps and my storage was borked due to memory issues But not a single scratch was on that thing for the whole near-decade i had it. It was well cared for and quite sturdy for all that i put it thru, having it on my person every single day of those 8 years. It died of natural causes: old age. Goes to show no matter how well you engineer something or how tough it is, nothing can withstand against time itself
I have an I phone 15 it's my very first I phone I have been a hard core android only person since I got my first touch screen phone. I switched because android is getting rid of all the things that made me prefer them (being able to take out battery, head phone jack, soft ware making older phones worse on purpose) part of why I got it is also that it isn't as slim as the newer android s and I drop slimmer phones more often. I have had it for a little over 6 months with out a case and have had many drops that I seriously thought it would break but it hasn't I'm honestly surprised that the reviews on its duriblity are suddenly changing.... Because when I got it all the duriblity tests were great.. So I don't understand why people are suddenly flipping the script now that a new one is out...? I literally had it fly out of my back pocket (running after my dog who bolted out the door) it landed face down on a rock I was having flashbacks and was like..noooooooo.... And I picked it up not a single Crack?? I have no loyalty to iPhone but I have to say my I phone 15 has with stood way more than any of my other phones idk if there is a differnce depending on when they were made or what but I'm utterly confused.
I recently downgraded (upgraded?) to a flip phone (no, not the smart phone ones. a true call/text "dumb phone") and an MP3 player, and it's definitely ranks as one of the best decisions I've ever made.
My Z Flip 5 is pretty awesome. Durable, and kinda feels like a Gameboy Advance SP with the chunky case I put it in. Getting it for free was the best part.
Apple has put out a statement admitting that they have a thing in their updates that make the older models slower and jankier the closer the new model comes out, especially when the new model gets announced. They've been sued over it as well, and yet they're still doing it. Hell they do it in store as well. The people who work there are told to not bother fixing it just get them -the customer- to buy a new one rather than get it repaired.
As a person that works in tech retail, stuff really has been designed to break easier. Stuff just isn't built with durability in mind or ease of access. You are encouraged to buy extended warranties and extra accessories to get the most basic of functions for things such as laptops that have USB-C only. you have to go through a lot more work to service some devices if you buy them from certain manufacturers.
If they wanted it durable it would weight 2-3lbs like the smart phones we give to our construction crews. People say they want something without realizing they’d need to walk around with a 2” thick brick
Honestly, I respect you for using technology to it's fullest and not falling victim to the consumer culture that we unfortunately live in today. Just because you can afford something doesn't mean you should buy it.
Funnily enough, i bought the iPhone 11 shortly after release and i am not the most careful person, it felt to the ground a good amount of times and it still only has a feel marks and scrapes but in general is pretty fine and intact.
I totally expected this because the aluminum that apple has been using is very malleable meaning that it lets the phone flex and if it’s been dropped it will take most of the energy, titanium however isn’t very malleable and won’t dissipate the energy by deforming.
The only reason I upgraded my phone before it broke was because my battery was dying after 2 hours of use, photo quality was not usable for the projects I was working on, and was very limited on storage space. Before I upgraded I had my phone for 6 years
I’ve had a iPhone 4, 5SE, 6, 10, 12, and rn a 13… and by FAR my favorite has been the 5SE, but that could just be cause I felt so upset as like- an 8 year who didn’t have the swiping up Lock Screen and emojis on my iPhone 4, so other than the 5SE I have really liked the 13, just cause it reminds me of my 5SE, and it’s not paper thin like the 10 tbh
Fun fact, lightbulbs used to nearly last twice as long as they do today, but they just weren’t making the company enough. So their solution was get all their higher up people together, and quite literally devolved the lightbulb, still lasting a decent amount of time, but no where as long as they used to. It’s a truly awful marketing technique and even more awful that this is being utilized by already multi billion dollar corporations, really hoping this doesn’t just stay as a permanent marketing strategy, it’s so infuriating.
It's being sensible. The truly rich don't spend their money on a new phone or car every year. They save their money and use what they have. You don't get rich by spending money.
I feel the same. I used my ipod touch for YEARS and ppl made fun of me for not having a phone. I eventually got a samsung active and it was great since it was so durable you could run it over with a car and it would be fine. I unfortunately was forced to update because it started to get too slow :C. I wish android would make durable samsung actives again, I'm all for durability.
Im still on the XS, been rocking it with no cover this whole time with no issues. I was tempted to update but I might wait until the next iteration. Also if you apply that much pressure to most phones theyre going to break...
I think the last actually good Iphone release was the 13. Its durable, easily repairable unlike the 14 and has amazing specs at the time of release and is still good now. 14 has issues in repairing and the 15 seems like not durable.
Just got an ad for an iphone case that specifically said it was an iphone 15 just because its already got that reputation of being so easy to break. For anyone wondering what happened next, they threw it up into the air and it didnt break. Truly remarkable.
As an Apple "hater", I gotta say hearing that you stuck to the iPod Touch for so long brings me joy. Those were fantastic devices and I wish phones and other devices were that good.
I think people blow it out of proportion or have some wild unrealistic expectations, especially for iPhones. Daily internet and music addicted user and I still have my bro’s 80gb ipod, my iphone 6s I used for 5 years (battery expanded in storage this past year). My iPhone XS I got new is still going for my friend I gave it to - no issues besides cracked back glass from skiing. I’ll hate on apple for every stupid decision they make but I’ll keep buying every 5 to 10 years because their stuff has always lasted me that long
Amen. I used my gen 4 iPod touch from around 2011 until 2020. It was the second digital music player I ever had, only preceded by a Sundisk MP3 player. The only reason I stopped using it, cracked screen and all, is because the battery life gradually died down to 5 minutes max fully charged. I did buy a 68 gig iPod in 2020 because my phone at the time had no music space. I had no idea that would basically be the last generation of iPods made, and they were targeted largely at kids because it does everything an iPhone does without the phone and contract. A few months later my 3G iPhone 5 was no longer supported and replaced in the mail free by a referbrushed 4gif iPhone 7 with 128 gigs. Holds my whole music library. Typing on it now. Still keep the iPod to listen to music when the phone’s battery needs a charge.
My iPhone 12 is an absolute tank, I have the basic MagSafe clear case. I’ve dropped it quite a bit on rough surfaces both face up and down and it hasn’t cracked, the only damage is small scratches in the screen in places
I still have the first gen ipad from 2010 the one with no camera and bulky as heck Still works like a charm I miss the era where apple built things to last
Hey, as far as your current iphone's battery goes. I work at a battery store that also does phone repairs here in florida, which I believe is the state you live in too. Apple has done some lame stuff as far as batteries in past, for sure. But, those lithium batteries found in your typical smart phones, they tend to last 2-4 years here before you start noticing significant decreases to runtime. Sometimes you can also tell you have a bad battery by other symptoms like it heating up a lot more when charging. But your phone does have a section in your settings menu to see your "battery health". It's under: settings → battery → battery health. If it's getting close to saying 80% or lower for your batteries capacity, I'd recommend getting it replaced if ya still want to hold onto your iphone 11. Repair time where I work is usually around 30 minutes for the battery swap. Just throwing this out here in case it's something you'd be interested in :o Have a nice one!
The only reason why I’m not using my first gen iPod touch now is because it can overheat easily (but so can my 11) and I completely shattered it the screen while running like a dumb little 13 year old and it fell out of my hand me down basketball shorts pocket It still worked for while, but I was too scared that the shards from the cracked screen would fall off and slice my hand open 😅
Respect for Charlie, he is the definition of gigachad and gigabased. I got my S8+ in 2017 and replaced it twice with the same model because it broke and only 5 years later I switched it to a Oneplus Nord 2T. Even though it was fine, I wanted a new phone because the battery of my S8+ was slowly but surely dying. In retrospect, I could have waited much longer and then upgraded it. Feels wasteful, to be honest.
Definitely agree. Even for android, i try to use my devices for as long as possible, but after 5 years of use I've always found that my biggest issue is always with the battery. Going from an 8 to 10 hour battery to 3 to 4 hours is too noticeable to accept. And then even after replacing the batter I always have some software issue or glitches. I don't get why people do get new phones every year, transferring information and all that is always such a pain
try turning off data and location when you don't need it, with my j7 i've had it on for almost 12 hours now and it's at 78%, i only turn on my data when i need to text someone but even then i can just connect to wifi
I still use a OnePlus 6t as my work phone , battery lasts me all day and there is no glitches ... so maybe actually do some research when you shop for a phone and you will have better luck , that's advice you should do with literally everything in life.🤦♂️🤣
I put my phone in a waterproof pouch and used it as a paddle with an inflatable tube. I figure if it can get me through that it can get me through anything. Motorola is underrated I think.
Charlie reminds me of my dad. He, till this day, has iPhone 4 and got no issues with it(except the storage ofc). I'm kind of the same, but when I think of getting a new phone, I think of getting one with more storage. I couldn't care less about the cameras and all that. Really wish people could stop hyping apple bro
It's still shocking to me that after bending a phone with your bare hands and crumbling to pieces, people will still continue to defend the company that will make your older phones slower so you buy their newest model that you will never actually need.
It's utterly mind-boggling, it's a masterclass in marketing. People get so sucked up in the way the products make them feel that they're willing to stick by and vehemently defend Apple despite repetitively getting screwed over and over. And the sad part is that it'll never change.
I’m feeling the planned obsolescence with my iPhone 6. I love this thing but the battery goes from 100% to 1 in about three hours now when it used to take three days. Since the new update it’s been dropping faster
I view phones and technology the same way, had my old samsung a71 for almost 5 years & just now had the urge to upgrade to a s23 Ultra, the jump in quality is huge & I will be happy with this one for the next couple years as well. Happy i upgraded
So I’ve been using my Iphone 7 for like 3 years now but it’s roughly a lot older since my mom used it before and gave it to me as a second hand gift, its working fine but ever since the new software updates for the new iphones came it basically rendered my home button useless so I’m forced to have a assistive touch just to even use it so yeah I’m very much convinced the new systems they specifically put for the new iphones are rendering the older ones useless but also weakening the newer versions just as much as well 😅😅
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honestly its impressive you kept a piece of modern technology working for more than 10 years
My farts are better than Charlie’s farts 💨
where my Gameboy Advance SP owners at
@@AngryHandstandsright here boiii. Mine still works and haven't charged it in years
most of my android tech would still be working if my hands stopped draining batterys
*apple
I've been using my same Samsung 11 for god... years and years, works just fine
"Planned obsolescence" is absolutely a real thing. I remember one of my high school teachers telling us about it all the way back in like 2008. It's simply the idea of a company purposely designing their products to be fragile and have shorter lifespans so you keep buying the "new" one that's only incrementally better than the last one. There's also "perceived obsolescence" which is when a company purposely makes that incrementally better product seem so much flashier and newer than that drabby old one (cough, adding more camera lenses, cough... making up a bunch of pro ultra plus max models, cough)
To be fair, the pro actually has a way better camera than the standard iPhone, as well as better performance. The rest is true. But pro isn’t just some flashy name, it’s legitimately a better product
@jacobcooley5266 clearly people will suck apple off no matter what
They taught this to me in history class
@@pablopiccaso-jw7qndo you take ap human geography?
I love to imagine half a year ago some depressed caged up Apple worker who was keeping iTunes on iPod alive just for Charlie finally broke free of his shackles.
This made me laugh 😂 the poor employee 🤣
oi you forgot dankpods he is keeping alive the ipod
We need more people like you Charlie who spits out facts it’s still crazy when apple and Microsoft gets away things like ripping off people with broken products
I don't think Microsoft makes much hardware at all these days
@@klduderino8449yeah, arent HP and like, Dell making the hardware?
This is exactly what broke people say
That apple battery thing was crazy. I worked at an apple certified repair shop at the time and we literally had massive half way up the wall stacks of replacement batteries because Apple had a deal for them as part of the whole situation.
I have an iPhone 4 that survived a car crash, literally bent in a 20° angle and despite the screen being nearly dust it still works perfectly to this day. I miss using that phone, it had a large capacity chinese battery in it too lasted almost two days. How the mighty have fallen.
My mom slammed her iPhone 4 in the door of car and it bent it like a banana and it still worked 🤣 her iPhone 5 never worked out of the box
now imagine getting an Iphone 15 and having it shatter because you accidentally dropped it on a carpet
The whole company of Apple has to be some sort of social experiment because the lengths people go to defend such a soulless company is insane
People do the same thing for the concept of android phones. An even better example of this is Elon musk who still has fanboys despite seemingly trying to prove he’s an idiot. People get capitalism pilled in so many ways. Whether they simp companies, products or billionaires.
@@ahahuehafook4207 this is actually a great example for a conversation I’m having in another thread about how insanely egregious a comment has to be to get automoderated. This gets through just fine😂 outright blatant anti-semitism is totally fine. And they were saying auto moderation claps right wing comments
@@tarettime9392anti semitism is such a Karen concept. It's the same as modern concept. It's actually better to call it KARMA.
I totally agree. I don't get a new phone unless it breaks. I'm still using a Galaxy S10 and it still works just as good as the day I got it, I haven't even noticed a loss in battery capacity.
I only stick with Samsung because a while ago I bought a Samsung surround sound system that was heavily discounted because it was a display and missing a lot of parts. I sent an email to Samsung asking where I can purchase replacement parts. Within 2 days they replied asking for my address. They sent me every part that I needed for free, plus they through in a 128g SDcard.
This was over $150 in parts, I didn't even have to pay shipping. Thats how companies keep customers for life.
I'm still using my S10 too. Extra SD slot, head phone jack, excellent battery and survived multiple drops. Not looking forward to changing to the newer models.
@propop1 my only issue with the newer models is the lack of a headphone jack. I finally replaced my S20+ after the screen that I cracked 2 years ago started losing pixels and touch response last month, but besides that it still ran so smooth. If you like your S10 then you'll like the newer models too. I've had the S3, S5, S7, S10+, S20+, and now the S23.
@@propop1 Right! The expandable memory is awesome, btw Samsung says the S10 can use up to a 512GB micro SDcard however your S10 can actually support a 1TB Micro SDcard.
The 1TB is whats in my S10 right now and works great. And not having the freedom to use expandable storage on the new S23 is the reason why I won't ever "upgrade" to the S23, and also I absolutely love the Prism Blue color of my S10 and meanwhile Prism Blue isn't available on the S23, only a very muted Sky Blue.
Damm, now you got me looking for spare S10. And I'm guessing a lot of other people also like the S10 because for a new unopened S10 the price is a little ridiculous ($500+) for a phone released 4 years ago.
Anyway nice to meet and talk to another super awesome intelligent person... but for real stay safe out there.
@@mastod0n1 I heard others say the S20 is great as well. So maybe I might get the S20 if my S10 breaks.
Since the S20 has expandable memory(micro SDcard) and the S23 doesn't. For some idiotic reason Samsung got rid of that feature. Which is really dumb since expandable memory was one of the main reasons people went with Samsung over Apple. Hopefully Samsung brings it back.
The Samsung line has some good products, even on their side brands. I've got a Galaxy A20 that I've had for well over 5 years and it still works fine. I cracked the screen recently, but that was my own fault. I didn't crack it for 5 years, even after dropping it more times than I'm willing to admit. Plus I got this phone cheap for the life time it's had.
I had a IPhone 6s, thing was the best phone I have ever had. It had a headphone jack (unlike my current 11) and it was apparently the most repairable iPhone ever made. I beat that 6s hard and it just kept working. Meanwhile I set my 11 down on a rock and it lightly slid and got 4 scratches on the bezel, with a case on.
The iPhone 6s was the goat. Wish the headphone jack sticked around tho :/
I think my 6’s battery swelled up and broke or maybe that was my 8
It's definitely the most repairable one ever. I'm not an apple fan, but if I had to pick the GOAT of iPhones, it was the 6s.
@@bravo_10 Yeah, my 11 has a nonfunctional speaker in place of the headphone jack. Sure they are changing to USB-C but no headphone jack?
as a former 6s owner i agree fully
Charlie I really appreciate you promoting Common Sense. I tell my kids pretty much the same things and warn them not to be influenced into buying useless upgrades or becoming sheeple to the latest trends. Of course, I'm the dad so they don't listen to me, but my boys absolutely worship you. Anyway just wanted to say thanks just putting it out there.
I still use the 10, got my daughter a 14 because at the time she was using an 8 and via planned obsolescence, it was getting to be a pain for her, so I didn’t mind. The only reason I really use apple at all is because back in the days of iPhone 4, it was the only airtight device out there and was easier to get cost effective waterproof cases. I work in steel fabrication and we have metallic dust particles, I was literally frying my androids in about 1-2 years no matter how much I cleaned them, eventually I’d pop the back off and find all this dust magnetically caked to the battery, eventually it would kill them.
I wish they’d just make the updates a setting I can toggle on and off, I actually understand the reasoning, there is a point where your phone wouldn’t even be able to boot without crashing if the battery declines to a certain point and the OS updates eve up being too strong a draw on the power, meaning planned obsolescence actually does have a purpose, however I know how to change my batteries and screens out if they get damaged or wear down, so the ability to toggle certain things without jailbreaking the phone and voiding warranties would be a good show of faith on their end. But yeah, not holding my breath, they’d rather I drop a whole ass paycheck or more on a new round of phones every time they make a new one.
just curious- how much protective gear did you wear for your job to protect your lungs n stuff? metallic dust sounds like a hazard!!
Planned obsolescence or just carelessness? I've had an iPhone 8 ever since it came out and it still fast and works perfectly fine...
jailbreaking is the way if youre tech literate, you can always unjb your phone with successi0n if you want to bring it for a repair ro smt
You would be surprised at how durable the iPhone 11 is. I’ve had mine since launch, and since I have butterfingers, I tend to drop it a lot, mostly on it’s front side (no screen protector btw) and there isn’t even a scratch on it.
I have a 13 and this thing has taken a few brutal drops onto hardwood and tile floors and has no problems. Don’t know if I’m just insanely lucky, but most of my iphones have been able to be fine after drops with just a basic rubber case
I'm guessing you've never dropped it on concrete? A good 2 foot drop onto concrete and that spotless screen is history.
The iPhone 11 was great, I had mine since launch till May this year.
This is why I swear by otter box defender cases.
Planned obsolescence is probably one of the grossest things companies started doing with their products, intentionally making things shittily because you'll have to buy another is something that should land the originators of that trend to hell
It should be illegal
Also the amount of waste generated is so bad for the environment since most electronic trash ends up being burned
I think it is illegal but just REALLY hard to prove, I could be wrong tho
@@tibiw1117 Planned obsolescence is not illegal. DESIGNED obsolescence, on the other hand, is hyper illegal and can result in company-killing fines.
Prison. It should land them in prison.
Also about your iphone battery, Apple is also basically the only one who still uses cobalt batteries while pretty much everyone else has been switching to many other alloyed batteries over the years as battery tech developed; one might think considering typical Apple practices that they chose to stay with cobalt compositions because they have a shorter lifespan for accelerated and even more premature forced obsolescence
Would love to see some data
cobalt? I thought they've been using nickel forever
@@codylujanno they just recycle the cobalt, the plan is by 2025 to use 100% recycled cobalt
I can't wait until Samsung finally starts using its graphene battery.
I fairly dislike Apple, but that claim just isn't true. They use Lithium-Ion Batteries just like everybody else. It's not like their batteries are any special. For better, or for worse.
Apple gives you more than enough you can hate them for. There is no need to make things like this up.
For example starting with the "ingenuine part" warning, even when switching to another oem part, because all of it is paired. The software locks, that come with that, for "safety". The non accessible calibration software. Etc.
Search and you'll find valid criticism. Don't make something up.
Lmao I’m right there with you Charlie, I’m still using an iPhone 10 and this this is an unstoppable brick, still works fine even after running it over with a forklift and accidentally chucking it across the room when you drop it and try to catch it and fail lmao
I was using a iPhone 6 up until a few months ago when I upgraded to a samsung s20
@@colevandyken2871 lol like the good ol saying, if it ain’t broke don’t fix it
Yeah same, iphone 10 has been insanely good, never had a modern phone last so long. My battery could be better but the performance is still really good. It fell from my hand a lot of times and still works.
4+ years and going strong
I got the iPhone xs max and i do everthing with the it, i had the battery changed when it went down to 75% and still no problem with it, my screen is always on most of the day with youtube etc and had 0 problem with it superb phone and i have had Androids before and problem with thoose were always performance even with the flagship models campare to iPhone at the same time
@@TheDeerjan yea I was android before I got this phone, personally don’t really use it for anything other than talking to the girl and BRclip, only reason I even upgraded was because my old one broke and I got this for free so couldn’t beat it lol
I had an iPhone 8 since it was released up until the 13 was released. I traded in for a normal iPhone 13, and it works extremely well in my opinion.
I use an S23 too, I'd definitely vouch for it. I'm not particularly rough on phones, I've only ever dropped one and broke it, but the S23 feels like it shrugs off quite a bit of punishment. As an added bonus, it's also easy to take apart and clean.
bro vouched the s23 on discord in the #✅vouches☠️
Apple stans will never admit it but as far as durability goes Samsung is now the superior company, they're seeing apple get called out on their money grabbing schemes and Samsung wants to reel in some new customers that no longer want to deal with Apple.
I’d vouch for the iPhone 13+ too. I bought it the first day it came out along with a $5 case from dollar tree and it’s been pretty durable for me
First time samsung user here. Idk if all samsung phones are built strong but this "entry phone" my friend recommended to me is tough af. I accidentally dropped my A14 from the second floor of our dorm to the street and all I got was some scratch on the top.
2:13 THANK YOU. I thought I was the only one for so long 😭 I had an LG too before going to iPhone, and also, this vid inspired me to just not get the iPhone 15 because I was contemplating to jump on it but kept thinking how my phone works extremely good and it’s durability and benefits. This thing still look brand new and is even bigger then the iPhone 15 vs the iPhone 11.
We need more influencers and people in general who think like Charlie. "I'm not going to upgrade because I don't NEED to" this is exactly the kind of mindset we should all have as consumers.
It could prevent the rich kid syndrome that happens on tiktok if this happens
Im the same way I still got an iPhone 8 but might get an android soon cuz it’s slow af
I will run a phone til it physically stops working, because it still works. There's no reason to go buy a new one if I don't need to.
off topic, but I love your pfp :)
Or how about, idk, just thinking for yourself?.
Agreed, if you don’t need it, don’t buy it. And if it’s not broken, don’t replace it just yet .i somehow kept an iPad Air gen 1 running for about a decade + and I’m still using it currently.
The craziest thing is that apples up until the 15 were practically indestructible! I’ve stuck with apple because, like you said, I only upgrade when I HAVE to. I upgraded from the 6s to the 13 pro max a couple years ago and there’s absolutely no feature that has convinced me to change. The only iPhone I ever had break on me was the 4s. The hardware and software has never had any issues on my end. It’s wild to see apple step backwards in the durability department.
I really enjoy the fact that you used a piece of technology and didn’t replace it because of time, you would only replace it if you had to. My old phone was an iPhone 7, and I had it for years, any of my iPhones would’ve been replaced since I would always get a hand me downs from my mom. The only reason that I actually had to replace that iPhone is because after my grandma’s funeral, I had left it out in the sun for too long, and the Sim card burned up. So I would have only been able to use it at home. We could have gotten the Sim card replaced but I did not know about that and I just ended up getting an iPhone 12 as a replacement / upgrade. I have no intentions on asking for a replacement for this phone unless completely necessary. The only kind of replacement or fixing I would do to it is anything related to the screen or if it is absolutely necessary for any other functions. I have dropped his phone in water, and it stayed there for like, over a minute, and it still works perfectly fine, no need for replacement
I’ve been fortunate with my iPhones to only have to update my model every 4-6 years.
My first device was the iPhone 2, followed by the 6S, and now currently the 11. I probably won’t be getting a newer device until the 16 or 17- if not moving away from the Apple ecosystem into something more akin to a prepaid phone because, frankly, I’m on WiFi 90% of the time; it’s relatively uncommon that I actually use my cellular function of my phone.
I was a pretty early adopter of Android phones. Some of the first HTCs and Samsungs did suck and were really fragile. I moved to the pixel when it first came out and have been pleasantly surprised despite being a Google product.
Huge respect, a phone should be treated as something that has many years of life in it
have had my phone for seven years it got cracked abd the screen is black on 40% of it....
It’s actually not just the 15, other iPad Air generations like gen 4 have similar durability issues, especially when it comes to the screen popping out from its display. I would know this considering I own a couple of them.
If I remember right, there is third party software for ipods that will auto convert songs for you. But iTunes was oddly good since you could easily update the mp3 tags and also increase the files volume if you notice it is too soft.
Something I’ll always advocate for is manual things. Manual car windows can’t stop working unless they physically break for instance. Stop making things weaker and electronic only, just because electronics are more convenient doesn’t mean they’re better in every single case.
I've always preferred manual things, but after working in IT for a few years I actively search out more manual/mechanical things. Electronics are just so fragile and difficult to repair in comparison.
I have the base s23 for 3.5 months now. Its been great so far and I'm still discovering new things it could do. The 120hz refresh 8k display is really nice. I went to best buy and messed around with an s23+, and the speed of that phone was mind blowing, I know the battery life is really good too.
the s23 doesnt have a 8k display💀💀,are u crazy or smth?
second of all the s23+ has literally the same chip as ur s23 so it isnt faster,idk how u came up with that
1440p screen bud
@@pegcity4eva oh my bad. Its actually 1080x2340. I was wrong because I know it takes 8k videos on its main camera, so I thought the screen would also be 8k lol.
Doogee's line of heavy duty smartphones have treated me pretty well over the years. The phones body are the cases. I used one to drive a nail into a deck railing. Granted, it was a small nail. But still. I was able to whack a small nail back into the railing with the side of my phone with nothing but a little scrape on the rubber bumpers.
They have one that has infrared cameras, a laser rangefinder, or thermal cameras,
They are designed with contractors and people who work in hard environments.
More people really need to care about the durability and longevity of technology, and the "right to repair" is so, so crucial to protect consumers
While I’ve never paid to fix my phone, mainly cuz I’ve never broken a screen, everyone should be able to fix the shit they have
I’ve always had an iPhone. Never needed a single repair save broken screen (my fault)
@@CurieBohr Never needed to repair my phone either, people should just look after their stuff more.
Just do both. People can be more careful and the right to repair. It’s not like it’s free to repair, just far less wasteful and costly.
I learned that if you don't use the charger that was packaged with the phone there's a huge chance you're killing your battery. Also upgrade programs with phone companies won't make sense if the phones don't get outdated.
Earlier this year I had to upgrade my old phone because it started getting super hot when it was on for any amount of time and the battery lasted like three hours.
It was an amusing experience because it was a Blackberry Priv, and everyone at the store just could not stop staring at it because they'd never seen anyone who had one of those before.
I originally got it because of the sliding keyboard, which I prefered over onscreen keyboards, and that was it. It was a good phone, I miss it dearly.
I especially miss how it didn't slide off of even the slightest uneven surface, unlike my Google Pixel. I swear it secretly excretes oil when I'm not looking at it because some place i've put it down on it should not have been able to slide and fall from...thankfully, it's pretty hardy, because I don't intend on upgrading it until it too is completely unusable.
I’m with you Charlie, my old iPhone 4s has been used as a music player/podcast machine since they stopped doing updates on it and I was forced to upgrade. It’s nothing to do with money I just think we should really drive tech into the ground before throwing it away for recycling otherwise we’re just making more needless tech waste. Unlike your iPod touch I found a couple morphie power bank cases with a built in hard drive being sold for practically nothing because it’s for old tech they are just drag and drop allowing me to completely cut out iTunes.
I just upgraded from an 11 base model to 15pro after 4 years and I couldn’t be happier. But the only thing that justified buying a new iPhone for me was the fact that i literally squeezed every ounce of life from that 11.
same here ❤
And that’s how people can actually stop waste as well, not by removing chargers😅
I considered upgrading but I decided to just pay to have the battery replaced on my 11 pro. Should be able to get 2-3 more years before the processor shows it’s age.
What's funny about this whole thing is the iPhone 14 pro series was actually pretty damage resistant. It's probably the only iphone I ever used without a case. Look up some of the drop tests with it. the 15 pales in comparison
I liked how he reached for his phone about to put it through a jerry rig stress test and stopped himself when he realized what he was about to do.
Charlie almost sacrificed his phone for science
Ayooo I seen that 🤣🤣🤣he thought ab it and was like nahhh lol
He remembered how keeping it real can go wrong
"Wait, that's dumb."
I think one thing that may have helped break the glass is the titanium. I don't know what the properties of titanium but maybe the different elasticity had an effect.
Titanium is a great shock absorber so the chances are the phone either has very little titanium in it or the titanium is far too thin to actually absorb any shock.
i try to keep my devices as long as possible - had my iphone 6 forever, got a hand me down x that crashed and upgraded to an 11. im keeping this thing for as long as possible. my friend upgrades her phones pretty consistently and has handfuls of problems with them. i refuse to let my laptop die, its a 2015 air - battery life is atrocious but this thing is getting me through university whether it wants to or not lol
Same situation, an Iphone 11 that has the battery life of a koala on a tree and an air 2015 that can stay open without a charger for max 2 hours but as long as they light up when u charge them I’m keeping them.
I still haven’t upgraded from the iPhone 11. The way I see it, there’s no point to updating technology unless there’s you know…some kind of technological innovation. Every year, it’s “it’s slightly faster and the camera is slightly better”. It just doesn’t do it for me. I went from the 5S to 11 because of Face ID. It’s an innovation I loved. Just waiting for the next thing I can love
I was walking down the street last year and my iPhone 13 slid out of my pocket and I watched it get run over by an SUV before I could run across the road and grab it. You could see the tire track across my screen, but the phone had nothing but a tiny little fracture in the corner of my screen protector. Nothing but a cheap flimsy case on it as well. I was shocked, fully expected it to be completely destroyed under the weight of the SUV. So I’d say they’ve had a pretty good durability track record up until now, from my experience. That shit was funky fresh.
Finally glad people are catching onto this bs. Louis Rossmann has a very good channel going over things like this. Though this is most likely a topic that'll live for about a week before it dies out again and people go back to buying products they complained about.
Charlie immediately earned a respect boost by saying, I don't need any technical updates unless something breaks.
We need more people to return to this mindset.
I used my phone till it died lol. That’s when I finally upgraded. I don’t see the need to upgrade every year, such a waste of money
I thought it was just me, I didn’t see no reason to upgrade unless it was necessary. Unless I was rich, fuck it I would’ve bought a nice car or house
I don't even know why there is any other way at all (other than people having the money - and I don't, tbh).
Charlie grabbing his iPhone and then realizing that trying to break it prooooolly isn’t a great idea. Classic 😂
Unfortunately, hackers find security flaws over time. Then exploit them. Technically Apple don’t realise it’s broken until it’s exploited. So yes, by that definition you should get technical updates when they become available.
Bro is absolutely spitting facts for the whole duration of the video. He's not an expert, he's just observing reality without being biased, he's exposing the arguable concept of plained obsolence and comparing the products in the characteristics he cares of and in the ones that are most important for a device like a smartphone.
For all the idiots in the comments: the more flexible the phone is, the more it’s internal components will survive a fall. That makes the iPhone more durable with common wear and tear, but it is exactly what will allow you to bend it and break it like this. Flexible materials will dissipate a large force applied in a short time, like a fall, but will break if you apply a small force for long time like shown in the video.
Will say I’ve had the 8, 10, 12, and 14 and I’m rough on them. Haven’t had any issues with them but does seem like they’ve gotten more durable if anything. Does look like the 15s a little rough though. The planned obsolescence has been solved for years now.
The only way I've ever accidentally broken an android product was jumping off the hood of a humvee holding a MK19. The corner slammed into the cargo pocket that my phone was in, and the screen shattered but was still usable. The fact phones will break just being dropped is insane
I have an 11 and it works great. I’ve broken it twice within the past 1-2 years; once half my screen cracked and the second time the entire front came off,and it works great. I personally don’t like the newer iPhones because the screen is too big and I don’t like the squareness of them. I’m sure mine will stop working eventually, but until then, I’ll stick with the 11.
I still use my 4-year old LG G8. I had to manually replace the OLED screen and install a fresh battery last year, but it still works really well.
I also had the same PS2 for 13 consecutive years, and a 3DS for 5 years when I was younger. Both worked flawlessly the entire time.
Fun fact: The biggest new feature on the iPhone 15 is the new standard charging port which they were legally forced to adopt due to the EU legislature that was recently passed. Shame on Apple.
Not to be an apple hater but they were already changing within like 2-3 years. They were the largest developer/financier of usb-c
@@tehtommy7 I highly doubt it. Yes, they were a high financer of usb-c... to lightning cable. Or usb-c as thunderbolt on their mac products. They were MILKING prices on lightning cables.
The new telephoto lens and sensor for it are pretty cool, but yeah besides that there's really nothing crazy
I remember when phones were using durability and water resistance as marketing points but they’ve dropped it and expected that nobody cared about those features so they stopped making innovations in that department
I love when my classmates gather to talk about the new iPhone (not anything technical, just the colors and storage options) and then 10 minutes later deciding they’re gonna ask their parents to buy it for them, while I sit there with my iPhone 11. Granted it lasts like half a day and I can’t charge it to more than 80% since the new iPhone, but it still works really well, why the hell would you buy a new phone just because the color of the phone is slightly darker than your current one?
A few years back I snapped an iPhone 6 in half fairly effortlessly. Just hold it by both ends with the backside to your palms, and bend it towards you. When I did it, I had the screen against my hand and got a chunk of glass lodged in my hand so don’t do that. they haven’t really changed in any way in the later models. The phone in the video that survived the bend test is genuinely impressive because it is not hard to do to any phone at all.
I've actually never had an iphone, only update a phone when it needs to be updated, just like you. Currently have the xperia 5ii and was about to get the iphone 15 because Xperias are great, but I'm sick of everyone having better camera than me. This video made me change my mind...
When charlie was about to snap his phone in half, realized what he was about to do, and quietly sat it back down before finishing his thought 😂
Charlie realizing that he probably could break his phone with his hands then stopping right before he tests it is hilarious 😂
It’s nuts how they all can break in your pocket from wearing tight-ish jeans and sitting down
@@pip3505like iPhone 6 that could bend like a banana
I mean the guy doing the break tests wouldn't do it on your personal phone, even if it's nearly impossible why would you risk the fact you may snap Ur phone and lose it
@@pip3505 idk about the rest but iphone X, 11, and im assuming the rest of the X's and the normal 12 definitely cannot break just from tight jeans lmfao. P sure that was a problem with a few models, and only one was bad enough to go viral.
Have you seen the guns that guy packs, probably realized there was more than a good chance he be sending that thing to the bin
I have been using my samsung tab for more than 6 years now and apart from the memory which I can extend with an SD card, I have never had a problem. I don't even use a case or scrren protector for it, probably dropped more times than necessary. Although it has a few scratches it works more than fine
When it comes to “Planned Obsolescence” there is an actual defense for it. It’s very technical but a BRclipr Technology Connections did a video on it. He does make sure to point out there’s a difference between manufactures making something last so long so you buy more, and making something last so long for logistical, safety and completely understandable reasons.
I will admit the channel is often dry, and dull, but I don’t think you’re going to find another channel that can make you watch a half hour video on smoke alarms and not make you feel like you’ve wasted time.
Pretty interesting stuff he covers… always very niche and specific, but I could go on and on about random things about garage doors, lightbulbs, vehicle lighting, AC, Old Film, etc.
What happened with the iPhone 15 models is a step forward but 15 steps backward due to a design flaw involving the curved glass instead of curved titanium encasing it for protection. Another issue is the heating problem caused by the powerful chip. Personally, I'd prefer a slightly thicker phone without camera bumps and equipped with some kind of cooling feature to dissipate the heat.
I’m similar because I never update anything if it works. My iPhone is at 13.5.1 and I refuse to update to version 17 or whatever. The lawsuit against them for slowing down older models with newer updates only justified my actions.
Just this year i finally upgraded to a new phone bc the last one i had for 8 years was so outdated and the battery was so worn out, i couldn't install any new apps and my storage was borked due to memory issues
But not a single scratch was on that thing for the whole near-decade i had it. It was well cared for and quite sturdy for all that i put it thru, having it on my person every single day of those 8 years. It died of natural causes: old age. Goes to show no matter how well you engineer something or how tough it is, nothing can withstand against time itself
Charlie almost actually breaking his phone when trying to show how he can't break it is hilarious
Pretty sure he broke it 😂
Yea he definitely broke it
@@lw3894 Yeah I think so too 🤣🤣😂 Pretty sure he played it off with the rice joke he read
My farts are better than Charlie’s farts 💨
@@MikeyVazquez lol how are you getting that information, is their a second camera on the roof.
I have an I phone 15 it's my very first I phone I have been a hard core android only person since I got my first touch screen phone. I switched because android is getting rid of all the things that made me prefer them (being able to take out battery, head phone jack, soft ware making older phones worse on purpose) part of why I got it is also that it isn't as slim as the newer android s and I drop slimmer phones more often. I have had it for a little over 6 months with out a case and have had many drops that I seriously thought it would break but it hasn't I'm honestly surprised that the reviews on its duriblity are suddenly changing.... Because when I got it all the duriblity tests were great.. So I don't understand why people are suddenly flipping the script now that a new one is out...? I literally had it fly out of my back pocket (running after my dog who bolted out the door) it landed face down on a rock I was having flashbacks and was like..noooooooo.... And I picked it up not a single Crack?? I have no loyalty to iPhone but I have to say my I phone 15 has with stood way more than any of my other phones idk if there is a differnce depending on when they were made or what but I'm utterly confused.
I recently downgraded (upgraded?) to a flip phone (no, not the smart phone ones. a true call/text "dumb phone") and an MP3 player, and it's definitely ranks as one of the best decisions I've ever made.
My Z Flip 5 is pretty awesome. Durable, and kinda feels like a Gameboy Advance SP with the chunky case I put it in. Getting it for free was the best part.
Wish my mommy would buy me a Z Flip 5
Apple has put out a statement admitting that they have a thing in their updates that make the older models slower and jankier the closer the new model comes out, especially when the new model gets announced. They've been sued over it as well, and yet they're still doing it. Hell they do it in store as well. The people who work there are told to not bother fixing it just get them -the customer- to buy a new one rather than get it repaired.
As a person that works in tech retail, stuff really has been designed to break easier. Stuff just isn't built with durability in mind or ease of access. You are encouraged to buy extended warranties and extra accessories to get the most basic of functions for things such as laptops that have USB-C only. you have to go through a lot more work to service some devices if you buy them from certain manufacturers.
If they wanted it durable it would weight 2-3lbs like the smart phones we give to our construction crews. People say they want something without realizing they’d need to walk around with a 2” thick brick
Honestly, I respect you for using technology to it's fullest and not falling victim to the consumer culture that we unfortunately live in today. Just because you can afford something doesn't mean you should buy it.
Lol he didn’t even respond to you
@@NortyMushhe never responds to anybody wtf are u on abt
Honestly, he doesn’t care about what you think of him
@@Bootytickler9991happy 13th birthday buddy
Funnily enough, i bought the iPhone 11 shortly after release and i am not the most careful person, it felt to the ground a good amount of times and it still only has a feel marks and scrapes but in general is pretty fine and intact.
Thank you Charlie!
I feel no shame still rocking my IPhone 8 Plus. Hubby has a 7 plus, still working just fine.
I totally expected this because the aluminum that apple has been using is very malleable meaning that it lets the phone flex and if it’s been dropped it will take most of the energy, titanium however isn’t very malleable and won’t dissipate the energy by deforming.
I myself have a ipod touch as well and it still works amazingly, i think upgrading is definitely worth if your device is like 4+ years old
I'm surprised Charlie has retained his creativity while living in the Apple ecosystem
I’m not surprised that the iPhone 15 is worse than its predecessors, but I AM surprised at how many people are shocked this is happening lmao
remember when iphone 7 max pro turbo epic deluxe whatever edition was bending in pockets ?
It's very funny when the *TITANIUM 15 PRO MAX* ad plays before the phone gets obliterated
Still shocked there’s people getting the newest model every year
@@catgaeming2025that was the 6 the 7 was fine
The only reason I upgraded my phone before it broke was because my battery was dying after 2 hours of use, photo quality was not usable for the projects I was working on, and was very limited on storage space. Before I upgraded I had my phone for 6 years
I’ve had a iPhone 4, 5SE, 6, 10, 12, and rn a 13… and by FAR my favorite has been the 5SE, but that could just be cause I felt so upset as like- an 8 year who didn’t have the swiping up Lock Screen and emojis on my iPhone 4, so other than the 5SE I have really liked the 13, just cause it reminds me of my 5SE, and it’s not paper thin like the 10 tbh
Watching this on my iPhone 5, this thing has gone through a lot, and still works so well.
Am on my Galaxy J7, very beat up but still going strong.
I applaud you for keeping that Ipod touch that is impressive. The iphone 11 is still holding up for me so I see no need to upgrade for now.
Fun fact, lightbulbs used to nearly last twice as long as they do today, but they just weren’t making the company enough. So their solution was get all their higher up people together, and quite literally devolved the lightbulb, still lasting a decent amount of time, but no where as long as they used to. It’s a truly awful marketing technique and even more awful that this is being utilized by already multi billion dollar corporations, really hoping this doesn’t just stay as a permanent marketing strategy, it’s so infuriating.
Charlie being obviously well off but not upgrading to the newest everything is a solid indicator of character.
I mean why do people need the latest and greatest if they don't need it ? Same thing with GPUs cars, etc.
@@Gatorade69 greed, sense of importance, not knowing another way, etc. People act more on wants than needs, so it's normal that they do it
@@Gatorade69 feeding ego, feeling special and unique as they have something others do not, same goes for fast cars etc
It's being sensible. The truly rich don't spend their money on a new phone or car every year. They save their money and use what they have.
You don't get rich by spending money.
You know some people that arent that well off also can afford good shoes, some clothes, shitty new phones, even if its inconvenient
I respect you man, you are a real one. Common sense thinking and living your life.
I feel the same. I used my ipod touch for YEARS and ppl made fun of me for not having a phone. I eventually got a samsung active and it was great since it was so durable you could run it over with a car and it would be fine. I unfortunately was forced to update because it started to get too slow :C. I wish android would make durable samsung actives again, I'm all for durability.
Im still on the XS, been rocking it with no cover this whole time with no issues. I was tempted to update but I might wait until the next iteration. Also if you apply that much pressure to most phones theyre going to break...
I think the last actually good Iphone release was the 13. Its durable, easily repairable unlike the 14 and has amazing specs at the time of release and is still good now. 14 has issues in repairing and the 15 seems like not durable.
Just got an ad for an iphone case that specifically said it was an iphone 15 just because its already got that reputation of being so easy to break.
For anyone wondering what happened next, they threw it up into the air and it didnt break. Truly remarkable.
As an Apple "hater", I gotta say hearing that you stuck to the iPod Touch for so long brings me joy. Those were fantastic devices and I wish phones and other devices were that good.
I think people blow it out of proportion or have some wild unrealistic expectations, especially for iPhones. Daily internet and music addicted user and I still have my bro’s 80gb ipod, my iphone 6s I used for 5 years (battery expanded in storage this past year). My iPhone XS I got new is still going for my friend I gave it to - no issues besides cracked back glass from skiing. I’ll hate on apple for every stupid decision they make but I’ll keep buying every 5 to 10 years because their stuff has always lasted me that long
@@LukasSchroederFilmsfellow i6 user, I got mine like 5 years ago as a hand-me down and it still works
Amen. I used my gen 4 iPod touch from around 2011 until 2020. It was the second digital music player I ever had, only preceded by a Sundisk MP3 player. The only reason I stopped using it, cracked screen and all, is because the battery life gradually died down to 5 minutes max fully charged.
I did buy a 68 gig iPod in 2020 because my phone at the time had no music space. I had no idea that would basically be the last generation of iPods made, and they were targeted largely at kids because it does everything an iPhone does without the phone and contract. A few months later my 3G iPhone 5 was no longer supported and replaced in the mail free by a referbrushed 4gif iPhone 7 with 128 gigs. Holds my whole music library. Typing on it now. Still keep the iPod to listen to music when the phone’s battery needs a charge.
My iPhone 12 is an absolute tank, I have the basic MagSafe clear case. I’ve dropped it quite a bit on rough surfaces both face up and down and it hasn’t cracked, the only damage is small scratches in the screen in places
I still have the first gen ipad from 2010 the one with no camera and bulky as heck
Still works like a charm
I miss the era where apple built things to last
Hey, as far as your current iphone's battery goes. I work at a battery store that also does phone repairs here in florida, which I believe is the state you live in too. Apple has done some lame stuff as far as batteries in past, for sure. But, those lithium batteries found in your typical smart phones, they tend to last 2-4 years here before you start noticing significant decreases to runtime. Sometimes you can also tell you have a bad battery by other symptoms like it heating up a lot more when charging. But your phone does have a section in your settings menu to see your "battery health". It's under: settings → battery → battery health. If it's getting close to saying 80% or lower for your batteries capacity, I'd recommend getting it replaced if ya still want to hold onto your iphone 11. Repair time where I work is usually around 30 minutes for the battery swap. Just throwing this out here in case it's something you'd be interested in :o
Have a nice one!
The only reason why I’m not using my first gen iPod touch now is because it can overheat easily (but so can my 11) and I completely shattered it the screen while running like a dumb little 13 year old and it fell out of my hand me down basketball shorts pocket
It still worked for while, but I was too scared that the shards from the cracked screen would fall off and slice my hand open 😅
Respect for Charlie, he is the definition of gigachad and gigabased.
I got my S8+ in 2017 and replaced it twice with the same model because it broke and only 5 years later I switched it to a Oneplus Nord 2T. Even though it was fine, I wanted a new phone because the battery of my S8+ was slowly but surely dying. In retrospect, I could have waited much longer and then upgraded it. Feels wasteful, to be honest.
Definitely agree. Even for android, i try to use my devices for as long as possible, but after 5 years of use I've always found that my biggest issue is always with the battery. Going from an 8 to 10 hour battery to 3 to 4 hours is too noticeable to accept.
And then even after replacing the batter I always have some software issue or glitches. I don't get why people do get new phones every year, transferring information and all that is always such a pain
try turning off data and location when you don't need it, with my j7 i've had it on for almost 12 hours now and it's at 78%, i only turn on my data when i need to text someone but even then i can just connect to wifi
I still use a OnePlus 6t as my work phone , battery lasts me all day and there is no glitches ... so maybe actually do some research when you shop for a phone and you will have better luck , that's advice you should do with literally everything in life.🤦♂️🤣
My s8+ is still doing just fine no problems. Samsung makes really good phones
It's crazy how they'll make a working piece of software slowly start to have bugs out of nowhere without you changing anything.
I put my phone in a waterproof pouch and used it as a paddle with an inflatable tube. I figure if it can get me through that it can get me through anything. Motorola is underrated I think.
Instead of making it cheaper to repair they should focus on making it harder to break😂
Charlie reminds me of my dad. He, till this day, has iPhone 4 and got no issues with it(except the storage ofc). I'm kind of the same, but when I think of getting a new phone, I think of getting one with more storage. I couldn't care less about the cameras and all that. Really wish people could stop hyping apple bro
Here i was thinking that buying a new phone every 3 years was a long period of time meanwhile Charling keeping devices for 10+ years 😂
Zack from JerryRigEverything is pretty damn strong. Just something to note with regards to his bend tests.
It's still shocking to me that after bending a phone with your bare hands and crumbling to pieces, people will still continue to defend the company that will make your older phones slower so you buy their newest model that you will never actually need.
they dont
@@xevaloryes they do dawg😭
It's utterly mind-boggling, it's a masterclass in marketing. People get so sucked up in the way the products make them feel that they're willing to stick by and vehemently defend Apple despite repetitively getting screwed over and over. And the sad part is that it'll never change.
@@xevalorHate to break it to you, planned obsolescence is a huge part of most products.
I’m feeling the planned obsolescence with my iPhone 6. I love this thing but the battery goes from 100% to 1 in about three hours now when it used to take three days. Since the new update it’s been dropping faster
I view phones and technology the same way, had my old samsung a71 for almost 5 years & just now had the urge to upgrade to a s23 Ultra, the jump in quality is huge & I will be happy with this one for the next couple years as well. Happy i upgraded
Had the s8+ from 2017 until about 3 weeks ago.
Stop being cheap and just get an iPhone
So I’ve been using my Iphone 7 for like 3 years now but it’s roughly a lot older since my mom used it before and gave it to me as a second hand gift, its working fine but ever since the new software updates for the new iphones came it basically rendered my home button useless so I’m forced to have a assistive touch just to even use it so yeah I’m very much convinced the new systems they specifically put for the new iphones are rendering the older ones useless but also weakening the newer versions just as much as well 😅😅